Home at last

The trip back home was long, but pretty uneventful. I did catch-up on some of my sleep on the plane and jet lag has not been too bad here. Marci and Lydia were trilled with the presents and some of the pictures and drawings I had made.

It is interesting that with the advantage of Skype video phone daily that both Marci and me feel that we are pretty well caught up on what has been going on. The yard and home look great with the green grass and all the flowers doing so well with such good weather this year.

Of course it was a sad leave taking from all my new friends in Vietnam and I know that I will be keeping in touch with them by email. I hope that some will get the chance to come visit us in Birmingham at UAB. I don’t know when I will get a chance to return to Vietnam but I am sure a shorter trip could be possible in the future.

This will be my last post for the Vietnam Visitor Blog. You might want to check from time to time over the next few weeks as I will be adding more pictures to the link as I am able to and as the computer will allow. So you should check back to see everyone in the Palliative Care Hat.

Cam on bac si cham soc giam nghe nhieu.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mong duoc gap lai bac si cham soc giam nghe.!!!!!!!!!!!

Happy Buddha’s Final Day in Viet Nam

Yesterday we listened to the rest of the projects that the fellows are designing. I know that this program that I have been working with will bear fruit. All of the fellows have good plans for projects to apply what they have been learning. The projects are quite sophisticated. It is clear that the MOH (Ministry of Health) sees them as leaders and teachers and is expecting change.

In the afternoon we had the Memorial Ceremony at the 09 Center. I have such mixed feelings about the 09 Center. There is great need for emotional, social support and this is clearly the type of place and patient that I am attracted to work with. However, the needs are great and sometimes even an important medicine would be in short supply. However what those who are so close to the end-of-life need is the human touch. Today, I learned about the charge of Uncle Ho was for the “medical staff must be a gentle mother to the country” and that this is the written over the gate of the hospital. I know from working in West Virginia and Cooper Green and the VA, to a degree, that the needs of palliative care are low tech and the human touch. It is of some reassurance that soon 50,000 Vietnamese could be on anti-retroviral therapy and the rate of infection and numbers of infected are now declining. We had a roll call of remembrance with flowers, and messages that we wrote and then burned to release the messages to the world. This was moving and wonderful and I think that seeing smoke as a spiritual connection must be almost universal.

I have also started to receive gifts. I have, with some cleaver packing, been able to get everything into the suitcase. Eric got a mask decoration of Ong Bac who is the mythical teacher that all turn to at times of testing. I on the other hand got the happy Buddha. With my round, face short hair and by report always smiling this was the most appropriate for me. The happy Buddha is everywhere and he is for good fortune, safety and good times. Both of us could use to loose weight and after this trip I think I must try again.

Then began the dinners; as in the Alabama all occasions are occasions for food. Tonight we had a wonderful feast at a restaurant that trains underprivileged young people to work in the food service.

Today we had the graduation and the high officials from the MOH were here to award the certificates and celebrate. Many speeches were given; but all with the theme of bringing palliative care (Cham Soc Giam Nghe) into all the hospitals. Then it was off for a meal again, this time at Dr. Hung’s restaurant and it was a special meal (including tiny baby birds whole). I can tell that this could be a rowdy, fun hang out and fits his personality so well. It reminds me of the Burley Earl.

Only a few more chores to do; I have managed to sale my cell phone back and I know that I have my assigned seats against the window to both look out and sleep against. I will be looking for home to come into view soon. However, everyone wants to know when I will come back and I know that I can not say for sure but I know that I will think of Viet Nam often and I hope that many of my friends here will visit us in Birmingham.

Starting to Wrap Up

I didn’t feel any tremors after the big earthquake in China but apparently some people in Hanoi did. It is strange to be in this part of the world that has had a major earthquake and typhoon in the last week. The photos are terrifying. Some people here may be going as relief groups to China. Of course the Myanmar junta will not let anyone in to help.

Hanoi is quite busy and I have seen Buddhist monks and nuns all over the city as the International Vesak Day is celebrated. I have hoped to visit some of the Pagoda’s but haven’t had time with a pretty busy work schedule. We are helping the fellows get their research and program development projects written. They each will get some financial support. I am very impressed by the quality of the projects and how much they have been helping each other with instructive reviews and discussions. This is part of the reason I haven’t been out since I have been working a little later with Eric to get all this done.

I am looking forward to getting home. Certainly, coming to Viet Nam has been an amazing experience but I do miss my family and friends. I hope Saturday is an Auspicious Day for the flight. Thuy, who is coming to the USA soon, had been looking at flights in early June. His Mom has discovered that a few days later would be a much more auspicious day to start his travel for his education in Palliative Care. I use to be quite the skeptic about things like this but as you get older you realize there are things that you cannot always explain. It certainly will be an auspicious day when Thuy gets to visit us in Birmingham on one of his trips to San Diego

Tomorrow, we will be having a Memorial Service and dinner marking the end of the official training. I know that I will be keeping in touch by email and I have high hopes a number of my Vietnamese colleagues will get the chance to visit Safe Harbor and UAB and meet all my friends and colleagues back home.

Le Phat Dan

I got up earlier than I really wanted too but the sun in Vietnam was bright this morning. I think they should seriously consider daylight saving time. However, in a mostly rural and agricultural country it is good to start the day off early. It seems most people are up and about by 5:30am and so when I was smugly thinking that I would make to Cau Bac for early church services only to realize I was an hour and half late. I walked on down to a shady square I know and stopped at a bakery and got some coffee; thus fortified I worked on some drawings and doing some people watching.

The traditional pipe for smoking tobacco and I suppose other things, is a long pipe of bamboo about 15 inches long and a less than an inch long platform on the nozzle where the small wad of tobacco sits. This is light and with very powerful puffing (considering the dead space) you get about two puffs. I would guess that although not good for you the amount that you can smoke is somewhat limited and as expensive cigarettes come down in price this will pass away as a shared pipe.

I have been meaning to get my haircut. I am looking shaggy and it is hot. I have looked for a place that cuts hair. There are salons for women and then there are places set up for impromptu barbers. I negotiated the price and tried to explain 5 on top and 3 on side. I even inspected the guards and selected the #7 which I thought would be to long. Obviously the guards are not the same here and I have one of the shorter haircuts I have had in several years! Good thing after 8 weeks I still have my hat. Somewhat beaten up but doing its job under daily use.

Time to go back to Cau Bac for church and it was Pentecost Sunday. 40 days since Easter and my coming to Viet Nam and my time here is coming to a close. Vinglish is what I call the mix of Viet and English and now we had a mix of French too. The Bishop was there for First Communions and Confirmations and there was some pretty enthusiastic flag waving. Pentecost Sunday was when the less educated Galilean and now leaderless apostles suddenly eloquently and elegantly begam speaking in every known language. I could have used this gift the day before when singing Karaoke.

It is Mother’s Day back home and Lydia was our family emissary to Marci. I called on Skype but not the best connection with so many people around the world I suppose calling their mothers.

This week is the beginning of the celebrations of the Buddha’s birthday and enlightenment (another birthday I would guess). It is kind of the combination of Christmas and Easter into one week but more on Phat later.

Karaoke in Viet Nam

Well we finished up the Module 2 of Palliative Care. Mostly this was a brain storming session. It is hard to participate in something like this when you do not speak the language. One of the things that is little hard for me to understand is that in many ways this is a controlled medical system, however, there is the issue of medical resources. The country is growing so quickly and there are private clinics and hospitals all over the place. The medical system here is not as crazy, dysfunctional and mixed up as the USA but they are working on it. I guess I just would hope that they will make a better job of it then we have.

There were some impressive rain storms Friday night, wind and even some lightening. Nothing really compared to the storms back home. I know that this year there seems to be severe storms and tornados back home with damage and death. Every few days there are pictures on the internet of the damage.

Ha Noi was cool and washed clean this morning after the rain. I walked over to see the History of Revolution Museum. Viet Nam as we know has had a pretty turbulent past. In the US we concentrate on our 10 years or so part of the 200 years of their turbulent past. Ho Chi Minh traveled all over the world in the early part of the 20^th century. He spent time in the US and was trying to convince Woodrow Wilson to help Viet Nam get out from under the French. The French were pretty intent on keeping their colonies. However, I wonder what the outcome would have been if someone had listened to Ho earlier on.

I walked over into another new part of town. I also took a taxi to the Ho Tay park and the Sen Restaurant for a group outing. This was kind of like a Vietnamese smorgasbord. The food was great and there was a band. They were channeling the Carpenters’ all evening. There was also a pretty amazing kid who at the age of 4-6 was really belting out some tunes. After this it was time to go to Karaoke. I haven’t been out on the town in Ha Noi and the Karaoke club was not what I expected. Basically there were lots of small rooms and each party could have their private Karaoke machine. Well a few of the songs were in English but most of them were in Vietnamese. I can’t sing that well and I am pretty sure that my pronunciation was not always on target. However, I had a great time with the group and Houng and Thuy have great voices. Lots of songs about love and heart break and being done wrong; it would seem that there is a lot in common with Vietnam and Nashville and Country Music.

The Camel Bites Back

The last two days I have been working with the Palliative Care fellows to help them get Special Projects applications ready. There is so much to do, that very basic interventions could be very productive here. These projects might give them a few hundred dollars to do a project in their institution to change care, such as improving constipation control, pain, nausea. I was hoping that someone would want to try a communications project but I think that this is maybe a little too hard at this point. In addition we have trouble doing this in the USA. So I think that starting with these other projects is a good plan.

Eric has come back and is leading a Module Two, kind of like a second level EPEC training for Vietnamese that have taken a course before. Yesterday, I was helping fellows get ready for a presentation and I gave a lecture on End Stage Liver Failure and End Stage Kidney Disease and Hemorrhage. I think back that about how just 10 years ago we were not doing much with non-cancer diagnosis and it is great to introduce these ideas here early in the process. The problem is that a program of home nursing and home care is not yet developed and I don’t think that the Health Care System has a good idea of what it should look like. I hope that they learn from some of experience and miss some of the pot holes we fell in.

Last night was a large group dinner for the Fellows was required. These can be difficult for me with my hearing impairment and when I am not used to a new accent. I transformed myself from button down professor with bowtie to hip guy with sandals, jeans and un-tucked shirt and I now have enough hair to spike it with gel. This clearly caused some delight for the fellows. As one said I was transforming from Ong to maybe Anh boarding on Em - which is roughly Mister, to young man to teenager in my new style. As usual the meal was served in courses which were numerous and family style. There was one dish that was brown meat and for some reason looked a little different. I inquired about this and was told it was camel. I asked “camel?” you don’t have camels in Vietnam?”, but was assured that they had camel herds. This was one of the few things that I have tried that I just could not get down. I am still a little unsure of the camel issue but the gall bladder farm issue turned out to be true so I have suspended judgment. In any case I have extended my types of food even further.

One of the guests commented that I was doing well with chop sticks. I am not bad, but not great, however apparently I guess so many people just do not try .

The city is really getting spruced up for the 5^th Annual International Buddhist Convention and this is the first time to have it here in Viet Nam. I plan to visit several local pagodas this weekend that have been spruced up so that they are really attractive and ready for the new visitors. They are colorful, cheerful and I will put up some more photos soon.

Communications

Back at work for the last two days with presentations and working on the special projects. The weather has broken some and the heat is not that bad. In fact yesterday it was raining pretty hard in the morning and the cab ride was longer than I would have expected. The fellows have been presenting their special projects and this has been very stimulating and I am very impressed by the quality of the talks.

Yesterday one of the topics led to a very animated discussion of the issue of non-disclosure of diagnosis and prognosis to patients. Although the cultural norm is to not disclose illness severity to patients but to discuss with family there is now some doubt among the group that this is still or is really true. Dr. Thuy from Hia Phong told us that she had been very struck by the way I spoke with one of the patients at 09 Center and how this had been helpful to him and not upsetting. She said she had never talked to a patient like this and that she had asked perhaps 20 people over the weekend if they would want the doctor to talk to them honestly about their illness if they had a severe illness, and everyone had said yes.

Cuong then told us about his experience when he was on call and he had used some of his new communications skill and that this had been very helpful and that nurses and other doctors had noticed the difference and had commented on it. I think that it is clear that both of them will have a change in their practice related to communication.

We also discussed Kubler-Ross and I suggested that they should do some survey work regarding this issue of disclosure of illness because the preferences for discussion may be changing and that I thought it would be important to document this in Viet Nam, since it could effect communications education in medical school and residences.

I have been working on my Vietnamese and I am really enjoying trying to learn more. The more I learn about Vietnamese and the culture the more I think I can understand culture. However, it would take years to truly have a good insight and understanding. I think that there are aspects of the culture that are just not understandable by the Westerner. I think that the Vietnamese have and are doing a much better job of understanding the culture of other places in the world. I think that the USA in general has not done a good job of trying to understand the multiple points of view.

I been looking for festival flags as something to take home as a gift for the unit but I haven’t been able to find any. Cuong said he would help me with this and the told me the character in the middle means unity or solidarity. I think that that is a wonderful sentiment for Palliative Care.

Thit Cho

Today was a chance to explore south. I wandered south to go a park I had not been to before. The streets are still not very crowded and I suspect that many people are away on holiday. I have found a nice park to visit and make my way over to a lake. I have brought a newspaper and find a nice veranda to sit on. It is very hot and others come to enjoy the view and the breeze. Several people are taking naps around the park. Suddenly it starts to rain but the vine is so thick over the veranda that we don’t get wet.

I have decided make my way back towards to movie house but after the rain it is now like a sauna with steam coming off the ground. It doesn’t help when I see a sign saying it is 33 degrees Celsius. I don’t know what that is in Fahrenheit but since a normal body temp is 37 Celsius I know that is hot. I find that I am basically stumbling from one cool spot to another. Although I don’t always look the neatest as a Westerner I can go into a large hotel and hang out in the lobby for a few minutes to cool off.

One of the cool spots is an ice cream parlor and I have some of the best gelato I have had in some time. They send me on my way to the movie house on Ba Treu street. I think that I am close but oddly the numbers on the left and right side of the street are not in sequence. I need to get to 191 but on the left side it is already 280. The location of the cinema is on the 6^th floor of what is by all appearances and American Mall. The theatre looks a lot like the new Rave in Vestavia. The tickets are a lot less but in a new twist the seats are assigned. I go to see Fool’s Gold which is good escapist fare. The audience seems to laugh on cue but there is a lot of physical comedy. I wander about the translation since it was in English. Right as in correct was translated re phai, which I know means the direction but I don’t know if it works the same way in Vietnamese. I will have to check it out with my friends.

I thought I was cool enough to walk home but I found that I was still far from home. However, I notice a shop with the words thit cho on the window. I know that this means dog meat survived here. I decided it was time to pass and get a cab back to Ha Noi towers.

New Orleans in the Orient

This was not an official holiday but still very quite in the city. In fact right now I can not hear the usually beeping and traffic that goes on. Many people are on a five day holiday taking today off with the other two days and then the weekend. I took off today down Hai Ba Trung street to try to make my way towards a building I saw from the bus last weekend. It looked like a public building and in fact turns out to be the Viet Nam National History Museum. The museum was started by a French and Indochine group in the late 19^th century to do archaeological digs and historical research. There has been evidence of ancient man back to the Neolithic period with stone tools in caves 15- 20 thousand years ago. There were some pretty amazing artifact from the long, and I would say violent, history of wars and invasions.

One of the groups I have been interested in is Champa. They had a kingdom during a period similar to Angkor Watt and there are some very fascinating ruins of a kingdom with a Hindu orientation that remind me of the pictures I have seen of the more famous site. Apparently, the ruins have not stood the test of time well. Angkor was lost even to the locals and therefore was not an easy site to quarry for building materials. In addition the wars of the 20^th century were quite violent in the area south of Hue that was the site of this kingdom and there was extensive explosive damage.

I also learned a lot more about the ancient capital we visited the other day and I had always wondered about these wooden poles with different tops that they seem to have at temples. Now I at least know I am not imaging the connection. They had a set of the “8 auspicious objects” but no explanation of what the objects are or why they are auspicious.

After getting a bite to eat I walked on into the old quarter. I first heard the music and then I saw a knot of people and then I realized it was the beginning of a funeral procession. At the front were probably 6 banners with Buddhist figures that apparently some family members were caring. Then there was the band playing traditional music, a very sad lament then some male grandchildren or great grandchildren, 3 in all, carrying a photo portrait of the man they mourned. Then came the hearse, open with flowers and other gifts on the coffin followed by the family, some crying very hard, supported by a large group that followed in support. This is so like the famous New Orleans Jazz funerals and with the city having that French quarter feel. It is sad to think that New Orleans is unlikely to really recover to the pre-Katrina state and just a quarter mile from here is the dike protecting this city from flooding. It could happen here.

I did negotiate some prices for some gifts for family. I cannot buy too much and get it back on the plane. I also found the market which was several stories and many shops to buy material and have clothes made. I did find some time and place to make a few sketches. It is hard since it is hard to find a place to get prospective and also not have too many people come up and watch you, which is unnerving. It seems if I am sketching, I must be an artist?

Tonight the only thing on TV in English is Australian Rules football. This is a strange sport but not as incomprehensible as the Cricket I resorted to watching yesterday. If I hadn’t read Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Universe cricket would have been even more of a mystery to me then it was.

Phat Diem

Today was Re-unification Day. In 1975 this is the day that the Saigon was captured. I have had some concern about how being an American would be received in light of our involvement. Most people around now were young and don’t have much memory of the war. They also don’t hold it against Americans individuals. Cuong has arranged today for a trip to Phat Diem. This is really an amazing place. A person called Father Six about 150 years ago was the driving force behind having this dramatic and beautiful complex of churches, chapels and a seminary. The buildings are so unique with stone masonry. There is the amazing Buddhist temple, Pagoda influence going on with Christian iconography. There was turned up edges of the roof and the decorations that represent the incense and the mythical animals the phoenix and unicorn. The inside of the church had red enameled wooden pillars and gold decorations.

After touring we had lunch and this happened to be a place were a family that Cuong had treated for Typhoid Fever last year, recognized him, and they graciously hosted us. I had goat today as part of my lunch which was unexpected. I wondered why the beef was so tough. I also learned from talking with some of the other travelers that "bo" which I though meant "beef" actually means buffalo. They have a different word for "cow" and the same word, apparently, "bo" is used for meat of either one.

I tried to make some sketches but it is so hard to do because it always attracts a crowd of kids and even adults. There were two little children on the trip and I let them make some drawings with my paper and pencils.

On the way home we suddenly stoped and turned off and went into the mountains. They are strange mountains in that the ground is flat and there are rice paddies and then up out of the earth stick these massive lumps of lime stone. It is like Ha Long bay with rice paddy instead of water. This was the ancient capital of Viet Nam over 1000 years ago before they moved it to Ha Noi. This was a great place for defense but not commerce. There are some temples to the two kings and some areas where you can see the old walls. This is an ancient land. The known history is going back so very far. Of course the Natives American has a history that is truly ancient but the USA is a baby as a culture and country compared to the Viet Nam.

Poor Bear

Tuesday was the day for us to hear some of the new special topics presented by the fellows. Dr. Thung had a great presentation on stigma, discrimination and the need to have physician leadership to combat this. Then Dr. Hung blew me away with a presentation on non-verbal communication and the need to break down the barriers between patient and physician. I was really pleased with the way they are incorporating the teaching. I was supposed to do a role play on communication to help cement this important skill; but we run out of time with so much excellent discussion. I think that if we can help then with teaching communication to others that could have a great impact. I have suggested that they should consider trying to make some communication videos so that they could share skills with students and others.

Well today I had lunch with colleagues. I wish they would let me help pay but they are so gracious that it is hard for me to get them to let me. I didn’t have to ride on the motorbike since one of the doctors had a car. New very nice restaurant in a new nice neighborhood that I hear is quite expensive. The town houses apparently are going for 40-60 thousand dollars. I asked Thuy about if he thought of moving and he said he could not afford it now. I also asked if you pay a mortgage or if it is cash. If I understand correctly, you pay the government a lump sum and if there is a private person you might get a mortgage.

The lunch had several dishes with fish. They made some spring roll like thing with fish and dipping sauces and then a hot pot of a dish fish and vegetables. The most interesting part of the dinner was the bear gall tonic. Dr. Hung was mixing a powder and crushing up the substance in some vodka and then he put it in the whole bottle. This was served around to the men. I had a taste on my tongue but not any more than that. I used my chop sticks to as my way of toasting so I would only have a drop. I can not say that it tasted bad but it just was weird. I told them I was worried about the bears and animals going extinct. They told me there was a process of putting the bear to sleep and using a tube to extract the bile and then doing this over and over again. I wonder if this could be true and it is not so nice for the bear. I do not think that this will catch on in the USA.

Ha Long Day

The second day in Ha Long started a little late with such a late night. I wanted to go over to the town that is not the tourist part. They now have a new bridge which is very beautiful and we crossed over. I got the driver to take me to the market. Yesterday, one of the people I had talked to had told me I should go to the supermarket. I finally got out that she meant this market and I think it was pretty special. It was kind of like the flea market back home. Low fee to get in and then walking around with people demonstrating ginsu knives and veg-a-matics and lots of other cool and very retro stuff. I tried to negotiate prices but pretty low and not much of a budge on the wooded soup spoons. On the other side there was a kind of trade show and I checked out potted meat products for the next camping trip, rice, plants, building supplies and basically a lot of the basics you would need. I also visit the fish sauce people. Wow, that was some very pungent stuff. Everyone was very pleasant and helpful and I will try to get some more pictures up. I walked around and found a library and took some photos for Marci. The hospital looked nice and there is an old Catholic Church on the top of the hill that is impressive as well. Some of the houses are built into the rocks and caves. I came on back on the bus and let Cuong know I was safe and back and was able to negotiate all this with my basic Vietnamese. There is an insight in being a minority, something that doesn’t happen to me much. It is not quite the same because I know that I have resources and it is time limited

Back to 09 today. We went to see some follow ups and there were some nice successes with several people feeling much better. One patient that was so depressed last week is still so very sick; basically his body only works from the neck up; but he had enjoyed the food we had brought and pain was better. He was more relaxed and spontaneously taking were he has been so slowed by his depression before. When we asked what might help him feel better he told me that some cucumbers would be nice. We happened to find some on the way to lunch and it was great to give them to him this afternoon. I will visit with him again tomorrow; but I think he is a really palliative care success story that demonstrates the simple things can bring so much comfort. He was still getting injections he did not want. We have asked the doctor to stop them. He added pain medicine but did not stop the injections. It is interesting what we think it important sometimes.

Ha Long Festival Day

After being out on the bay for the morning I was now not sure what to do for the rest of the day. I walked down the promenade and noticed a more Western looking place and went in hoping that I might get some ideas about what to do next. After a little lunch I talked with some of the workers and it was clear that other than going out on the bay or getting a massage that there is not a lot of other things to do here. However, this was going to be a festival day. I walked on down to the festival and parade route. There was a neat stage and clearly a viewing stand. There were also some floats and more and more people were showing up. Not only to see the parade; but also to be in the performance. Some of the outfits were pretty outrageous. I was amazed that you could get so many people to dress up as flames, or bamboo shoots and I think some people were lumps of coal.

As it was getting closer to 4 PM I stationed myself close to the grandstand. Being a westerner and a little taller helps in this kind of situation but I still had to struggle like many others to get a good view as the crowd changed. There was a 2 hour performance starting out with traditional drumming, local pop singers, and dance routines and in the background on the boats dragons. The dragons were incredible. There were two sets and they did choreographed dances. Ha Long is descending dragon and the islands are seen as the humps of dragon sticking out of the water. I, of course, was the only Westerner in my group but I felt very welcomed and part of the group. After a while many of the people had to leave to be in the parade. Many of the people wanted me to be in pictures with them. I think that this was one of the best parades that I have ever seen.

Afterward, my usual luck and knack for publicity held up. I was asked by the local TV to be interviewed for the Westerner’s take on the proceeding. So next week I could be on TV here in Vietnam.

There was a fireworks show coming up and so I stayed for it. I had a good meal at a nice restaurant and I called Cuong to let him know I was ok. I waited outside with a new group of Vietnamese who want to know what I am doing here in Vietnam. Everyone is impressed that I know any Vietnamese. Finally the show begins and it was nearly an hour long and the best fireworks I had ever seen. The final blast of fireworks ended with the music of Dvorak’s, New World Symphony. This piece was written nearly one hundred years ago by a European impressed with the USA and now I think that in many ways the baton of the New World is being passed.

I knew that it was a long way to my hotel but I had hoped to get a taxi to take me there. However, with so many people this was not possible and I walked with thousands of people for nearly an hour to get back to my hotel a little after midnight. This was one of my most fun days here in Vietnam.

More on Ha Long soon.

Rouge Bus Gets Us There

Today I was off to 09 center. I had brought some oranges and rice cakes for the patient I had seen the day before and Dr. Thuy and I went to see him. She did talk with his attending and some changes to improve his symptoms will be made. I discussed if Doctors could work in groups or teams so that patients would have the assistance of several doctors reviewing the cases and have coverage when some one is gone. Apparently this is just not done here and I think that there are some patient ownership issues, just like in the USA.

Dr. Yin presented some interesting research she had done about pain control. It is interesting how similar the pain control problems are whereever you are. However, I know from experience you have to have your own information to present to your bosses to try to get changes made.

Socrates paid a visit and I did my Depression at End-of-life presentation and I think it came off very well. It takes time to do this with a translator. Thi was translating my English to Vietnamese and then I said "Xem lams gi?" (sounds like "seen lambs zi?") Which means something like what "So, what do we do?" and he translated my Vietnamese into English. He looked a little surprised at himself and everyone was amused. I also talked about addiction therapy and I think we need to spend more time on this project.

In the afternoon Cuong and I went to Ha Long. He came by about 5pm and then we went to the bus station. We really did not get a bus there but a rouge bus was gathering passengers and we got on this one. It is really amazing how many people you can put on a bus when you have stools in the aisles. Cuong was really exhausted. He has been burning the candles at both ends and he has a lot of work to do this weekend. It took about 4 hours to get to Ha Long and then to the hotel. I had asked if it was near to the things I needed it to be and it isn't; but it is nice and Cuong and I got a good night rest. I would have had a hard time making it to the bus and Ha Long without him. After breakfast we took the cab to the bus station so I would know where it was and then I went to the docks and he went off to work at the nearby hospital.

Ha Long bay is amazing and check out the pictures on flickr.com link. I got a boat tour, was the only non-Vietnamese on the boat, and off to caves and fishing village and amazing islands. The only down side was that it was smoggy. I talked with many of the passengers and one who worked for the tourism group asked my impressions and what could be done better. I said that more written information in English would be nice and then mentioned the smog and pollution. I think I was just a little too honest. However, she told me that she had read that the US had much more emissions then Vietnam for size. I have to say that that is true. However, the situation reminds me of the the Great Smokey's with a wonderful natural place in danger from the air pollution. So much so that the last trip to the Smokey's made me so sad to see the changes just in my lifetime.

My next post is going to be very exciting!!!!

Addiction Therapy and Last Hours

One of the things that I discovered is that a lot of patients with HIV have been IV drug users. They have been in what was called "treatment centers". When I ask the doctors how you treat a patient for addiction and if there was counseling it was pretty clear that that did not occur. Almost all of these patients have impressive tattoos that they put on each other to pass the time. It is clear that they could have shared TB, Hep B and C and some other things.

One of the fellows mentions that a patient we might see will just go back to the street. I asked him “Why people take drugs?” He clearly has never thought of it. I asked him if he thought that they like their life, or were they weak or what is their motivation? When I said that many might be depressed and self medicating the idea of addiction as a disease that might need therapy was clearly new. I will talk some about addition therapy tomorrow although this is not on the schedule. This will be interesting for both of us.

One of the most disturbing things today was to see a patient that was probably in his last days. He was alone and very sick not able to move from his bed. His family had hired another patient to be his sitter and he was feeding him. He needed to have a Safe Harbor clean up but I don’t know that he is up to it. It might just be too painful. I decided that we would focus on emotional and spiritual. He told me he was at peace but it did not look like it. He also sadly said that he felt that he was already dead but not dead completely yet. When I tried to ask him what we can do for him at this time he finally asks if we could ask his family to visit every other day instead of once a week. I think we can do this but we spend time talking about building community for those without one. Interesting, they use dry green tea to help with odor and I would say it works better then almost anything we have tried.

Home Visits

This was my second time for a home visit this afternoon. The morning was difficult. The 09 Center is not a real hospital or prison or treatment center. It doesn’t even work well as a warehouse. I went to see a patient with fellows. Information is scant. When I can’t do the interview myself it is difficult because the subtle hints and the way of asking questions is lost. However, this patient was supposed to have only been infected for a few years and now he is very sick and declining rapidly. Also, he is a professional, an engineer among most of the other patients that a drug addicts. I suspect that he has had the virus for longer than he says and that the route of transmission may be not as he as describe. However, I have seen patients who did have rapid progression of HIV to AIDS in a few years but is rare and then it is hard to judge what else people say as true or not. We must though start where we are which is with a very weak immune system and one of many common opportunistic infections and we will probably just have to do this by empiric treatment since he testing is limited. Your history and physical exam become more important and you have to think about this almost like when you are doing pediatrics. The thing that stumps me is that he has a rash. I know shingles, fungal and a few others but this is not like most I have seen. It is dry to wetting it might be a good plan but with what. Fortunately, the next day it was better and I and he have dodged a bullet.

Hung has arranged for us to see one of his patients at home. However, there is the matter of lunch. I had to ride with helmet on the scooter with Hung since there are just not taxis out where the 09 center is. I am doing ok with this but avoid this whenever possible. We go on a lot of back roads and by a flood diversion gate and finally are in a really nice neighborhood. There are a number of very nice looking cafes that we drive by to get to this kind of run down place that is more open air and you walk to a little cabana for your meal. I just don’t have much idea what to order so let others do that for me. I therefore am at there mercy. I had mentioned I liked corn and we did get some fried corn new experience and some other things that were ok. I was alarmed at the bottle of Vodka that appeared and mostly disappeared while we were there with 4 men consuming most and Dr Thuy and me only the polite glass.

After this we meet the rest of the group to visit our patient. I think that M most have well to do parents because of the treatment and the care they are providing. I did go into his room and discuss evaluation of home safety and particularly the bathroom. He then came out and we had our conversation. I know that he is sick but I think that depression is playing a big role and we discussed better symptom management more exercise and possibly medication. I think this was a pretty big success all in all and I think that Vietnam will have to come up with a plan to provide more homecare. The family asked me if I thought the hospital could provide better care or if he would be in a hospital in USA. I can tell you that the hospital is a dangerous place in the USA and certainly in Vietnam with risk of hospital acquired infections and home is the safest place to be if you don’t have something like surgery that you need to be in the hospital for and then home again as soon as possible.

There is a Balm in Gilead

Today was the first day for me to go to the 09 Center. This is a little hard to explain but these are centers that are apparently designed for people with HIV/AIDS infection. Some of the people are quite sick and some I think just don’t have a place to go to. I would say that if this was a hospital and in America a lot of the people would be in some sort of outpatient setting and not admitted. People are not required to stay here but I think that some don’t have a lot of other opportunities. We all wear masks when we go to see patients because TB is so common that it is often and must be treated empirically since with the HIV they can get sick with the TB very quickly. We discussed pain control and treatment management and I spent a lot of time discussing the issue of depression and how to evaluate and treat depression. This was an interesting way to spend time and I like to trying to get the emotional, social and spiritual aspects Palliative Care in the discussion. I think that the 09 center is pretty depressing as a place and I think that we need to focus on how we can make it less depressing.

I was very tired with my trip to Hue and so during the lunch hour I was able to lay down on a bench an take a nap that helped me feel more refreshed.

I was supposed to give a talk about the Balm of Gilead and Safe Harbor. I was able to talk about my work. I spent time talking about the choosing of names and the meaning of the names. It was difficult to explain the metaphorical meaning behind the names I picked. I always wonder how the culture will be able to translate and express the kinds of the mission statements I was presenting.

For some reason I asked if they would like to hear the Balm of Gilead song and then started to sing. There were some pretty big eyes and some applause. I really did not want to just talk about what we did, but how we did things and could I help them figure out how they can do a project for themselves. I decided the PDSA system of Plan Do Study Act was a good tool that people might be able to use. I think that we really need to work on a Vietnamese system of quality improvement and concentration on what is proven by study to be of benefit, and try to concentrate the limited resources on what is really helpful.

On the language front I am trying am now working on sentences. More on that later.

Wee What a day in Hue

Hue is an amazing place here in Vietnam. I had one of my best nights of sleep in the hotel. Hue is not nearly as noisy and busy as Hanoi. I had booked a tour with a group for the day. I was a little worried because the tour would end at 4:30 PM and I needed to be on the bus at 5:00 PM for the Camel back. They came to pick me up and stopped at several more hotels. A number of the people on the bus were families of Viet Kieu (Vietnamese that live overseas and often with families that they were bringing back to see the home country). Peter and Annie were a typical couple. She had left over 20 years ago and now she was bringing her Army husband, just back from Iraq, to meet her family that she had not seen for many years either.

The tour was of a village where they made incense sticks and also conical hats that the farmers wear. Then we visited 3 royal tombs of the Nguyen Dynasty. The tombs all had similar patterns of gates, elephants, mandarins and then a biography and then a special pond and then the head being the tomb itself. The area reminded me of home in many ways. The climate of course, but also the sandy hills with pine trees with lakes and clear water ponds and rivers just reminded me of the part of Florida I grew up in . Also the river goes out to something like the intercostal waterway and then the ocean. Look at it on Google earth and you can see. There were a number of small children and some become very tired. Our guide began to fade particularly in the afternoon after lunch.

Although I had been to the Citadel the day before I went with the group again. The got a very brief tour and I am glad I got to spend more time there. The final stop was the Pagoda. It has 7 stories and is one of the most famous here in Vietnam. It has been a place that had appealed for peace many times. There is a famous image of a Monk that in protest died in a terrible fire. It was in all the papers in the early 60’s and in the history books. He was from this place. I shared some of the incense I had bought with the members of our tour so that they could make their own offerings. There were many young novices there and they were helping in the temple. I wondered around back and an old man was sitting on some beds that were also cabinets and he invited me in to to talk to me. He was, as it turned out the Abbot of the monastery now. This room was where many of the novices lived and he was their teacher of Buddhist Philosophy. While I was there many came and went as they robed to go and serve in the temple. In the traditional Vietnamese way he asked were I was from about my family and children. He said that he of course could not marry and had no children but he had 90 novices as his children now. Also he spoke of the many of his friends were now leading Buddhist communities around the world and some in America. Why he choose to speak with me I don’t know and I almost always feel uncomfortable saying I am from the USA in light of the history but they are looking forward and not backwards while they live in the present.(the Buddhist way)

He told me that you should always have your incense in groups of threes. One for the past, one for the present and one for the future.

The present caught up with me and I realized I had missed my boat and needed to get back to the bus. There was no taxi and I had to take my first xe om (motorscooter) trip. Obviously, I am writing this so no worse for wear. Long trip back on the bus and then off to work. Will put a picture of the Abbot up on the web when I can.

Bang ca nhan

Well I had a little blister on my foot and needed a band aid. So I looked up how to say I need a bandage for my foot. There was no word for band aide in my dictionary. When I tried it out with the staff. It was clear that I had made an impression. They keep looking at my leg and me and trying to get a chair and have me sit down. Apparently the bandage I had asked for suggested that I might need an amputation. Finally Band aide or as they called bang aide is understood and I get one for my blister which helped a lot this. The above is how you say band aid but I can not put in the dicretic marks and so it means many things the way it is written now.

Spent the day exploring the Citadel and the Forbidden City. There was incredaible fighting here during the wars and it is surprising that anything is left standing. Hue itself is a very plesant town and I have enjoyed it greatly. I think it reminds me of the relative calm of Birmingham to the hectic nature of Atlanta

More about Hue later but soon time to board the tour

Camel Bus

The Camel did make it to Hue. However, the experience was and an experience. I was lead to believe that there would be other overseas tourist on the bus. I was the only one but my new Vietnamese friends shared some cake and I some fruit and I used my basic dialogue. Are you married? Do you have children? and right back at you.

The bunk could be comfortable if was the the size of most Vietnamese. Even at my scrawny 5 foot 10 inches I am taller than most Vietnamese and the berth was just too short. I must have sleep becuase I actually feel pretty rested. My bus mates wondered why I didn't take the plane? I began to wonder too when in reading the guide book it said the flight was only $35 dollars. However, that was 4 years ago and we know that the dollar is taking a beating so my 7 dollar trip is still a good deal.

The bus had air conditioning and that was nice and I think helped clear the air. The bus was very clean and nice and in Vientam style we were meet at the bus door with a bag to put your shoes in and option for paper slippers.

I talked for a little while with Thuy (this is another new one) who apparently is an employee of the Marine Protection Agency and was on his way down to collect some water samples. Our converstation was short since they started playing music videos loudly. There were 3 and they were very contrasting. Traditional Vientamese ballad, then some very martial sounding music with vigiorous singing and in the background soldiers marching and it looked like fighting in a battle. This was followed by a very graphic music video in English that had lots of double entendres. I hope that my fellow bus mates could not understand since it made be blush. Twain said that "Humans are the only animal that blushes; and need to."

Fortunately they did turn this off around 11PM. I awoke to see countryside and mountains in the distance and miles of rice paddys. Many people were in the fields cultivating; I don't understand how you grow rice but find it interesting. I think that there is growing prosperity in the country with many nice house and new ones under construction. Looks like people build then as they get materials. I saw people making bricks and carving beams. Not alot of wood to use and they save it for only the needed spots.

Liter is a problem but not as much as Hanoi and the sky is BLUE!!!!

I got off the bus at the stop in Hue which apparently is the first stop not the one I wanted. I had to take a taxi accross town and even with bargining it was almost 1/3 what it had cost me to come to Hue from Hanoi

The hotel is very new. Only open now 3 weeks. Even the push cabs did not know where it was.
The staff is a little too attentive but they are students at the Tourist Academy for Hotel Workers and Management and this is part of their grade so I understand.

Well off to see Hue with more news to follow later.